Unedited Post of Big Al's first cycle
Days Before:

In the build up to my transition my thoughts dashed back to when I first started training, the reasons that led me too the gym. I had trained with weights previously and been interested in marital arts but never thought of taking it seriously. I remember walking into a room filled with fellow students and I saw a guy with huge arms, up until that point I’d been worried too much about my body’s appearance, I was caught up with other things, I was temperamental and overly aggressive. I decided to go with this guy to the gym; not to be like him but to mellow my moody existence it never occurred to me that I would catch the bug, he would introduce me to the place I would call my second home for my first year of training.

Now eight years later I was taking a step from natural to chemically enhanced, a decision I had not taken lightly. I had trained hard for many years, improving strength and size dramatically. Sure there had been lapses and injuries but the fire was still strong. Now it was time to take the next step, and for all the advice and research it was still a cross-over into the unknown.

That’s why I have put my first week down on paper a diary of events for guys in the same position to read.

Day 1 - Sun.

Nervous and maybe even scared………this day had been coming for so long now, D-Day. I had a bath, soaked and thought about the injection process I had read about. After the bath I laid out my instruments on a surface I had sterilised. Two needles, one for drawing one for the injection. I was injecting into the glute so I had two 21G 1.5” needles, one 5ml syringe, two alcohol swabs, one 2ml vial of 100mg/1ml Deca and one Amp of Sus250 (250/1ml).

I attached the needle to the syringe, and then for the mistake I didn’t take enough air into the syringe, this made drawing up very hard, and must have taken me 15 minutes of struggling. A week later I would have it to a tee, by loading 3cc of air into the syringe first. Back to day 1, after drawing up the Deca I attempted to break the amp on the Sus, a tricky manoeuvre. In the end I wrapped the top in Kitchen Towel and broke off with a pair of pliers, do this high and you won’t have too many problems, try and get the glass into the tissue not the amp. However, I found glass in the amp to be ok.

My girlfriend swabbed my glute with the alcohol swab and like a pro darted the needle into my glute and injected the entire amount in the glute. This didn’t hurt at all, and didn’t hurt the next day. I had run the syringe under hot water to heat the mixture before hand. I then placed a swab on the glute and massaged.

Now this isn’t exact instructions just my thoughts and feelings. For the rest of the day I felt sick! Its strange I just felt a little bit like a hypochondriac that day, everything was caused by the injections……my head ache, lack of appetite and feelings of nausea. This passed and I’d imagine is normal, there a lot to come to terms with and I did just inject 450mg of AAS into myself.

Day 2 – Mon

The D-Bol began today, 40mg per day. 4 in the morning and 4 in the afternoon. I personally have naposism. I felt great all day, just a great sense of well-being, maybe even giddy. I trained poorly though, I suppose I expected super human strengh in a matter of hours, mentally I knew I was normal and this distracted me.

Day 3 – Tue

Same again felt fine, no negative affects and no rage or spots or anything, I could feel the naps but training was lacking my mental effort. I was concerned that everyone knew what I was doing. I was distracted and lacked focus, and again no change.

Day 4 – Wed

This was a rest day and injection number two, I rotated this into the second glute and apart from the same problems of drawing up went fine. I’d say injecting would be a lot harder on your own. I’d found it painless leaning against the sofa taking the weight of my leg (the side of injection) and letting my girlfriend dart the pin in.

Day 5 –Thursday

I’d put on some weight when I weighed my self, just a couple of pounds but I looked fuller, and maybe even a little leaner, things were beginning to change. Happily I’d seen no changes in personality and apart from some mild kidney pain that seemed to occur when I’d either not drank enough water or had delayed my intake of milk thistle. I decided to drink more water and increase the intake of milk thistle.

Today was legs, now it was too earlier to expect too much but there was a feeling of power in the muscle and taste of what was to come, failure came a little later and I could pro-long failure with the necessary mental effort. I felt better now I had mentally adjusted to my new supplementation programme, I had accepted the consequences and had realised the true implications and that the myths were not apparent…yet.

Day 6 –Fri

Training was even better now, don’t think its any different…you’ve got more in the tank definitely but its up to you to get it out, if anything you’ve got to train harder, eat better and be even more disciplined when on the gear. Somehow I knew this was just the beginning and I still had weeks to come before the Sus/Deca kicked in.

Day 7 – Sat

Arms, I hadn’t trained arms seriously for weeks, I’d been carry a couple of minor injuries, which prevented me, from hitting failure. Today was different I lifted the same weights as I did before and had a more intense workout and the pump was better than I had ever know, my arms blew up, I think they must of hit 18 inches…blood gorged the muscle. Arnold I wasn’t but Bigger Al I was!

Day 8 – Sun

Injection day again…a week had gone so quickly I was 4-5ibls heavier now and was feelin’ strong, it’s a feelin’ which sits in the background of power, well-being and strength, I was looking forward to Back tomorrow. I had eaten well but hadn’t seen my appetite increase too much, however, I had put that down to eating 4500+Kcal. I never really had a chance to be hungry.

I was determined to get this injection perfect, this one was to the thigh, so I prepared again but switched to a 23G 1” needles. I made sure I put in 3cc fair into the syringe and unbelievably the liquid seemed to fill the syringe for me, I laughed cos it had taken me so long the previous week.

The injection into the thigh was hard, my girlfriend had to use all her strength (two handed) to get the oil into my thigh, this hurt. And it hurt today. I’m thinking about using a 21G 1.5” for the thighs also, but not take the needle to deep. And I’m gonna leave delt injections for the time being.

So that’s it week one, week one of eight. A lot of people talk about gear but I thought it would be interesting to put down how I felt and what happened.

I hope this is not waffle and of some assistance to the many new guys out there.

Be Safe

Big Al


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gr8 post bro!!

i am currently doing my 1st cycle of dbol and sust, this is the 1st day of the 3rd week and i already gained 6 kilo, so that is about12/13 lbs, not much water retention, but i discovered a huge problem...


at 111 kilo's/245 lbs, i cant seem to fit in any of my shirts and pants?!


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billy boy posted 2001-30-07 07:21

Nice one Big Al

When is the Autobiography out? LOL

Good to see the other side to all the prep , research not just a case of buying some gear sticking a pin in your ass and hoping for the best whilst you eat everything in sight.

Its not just the physical prep that is required its also the mental and emotional side to it that I think a lot of "kids" ignore.I know when I reach my time to do AAS I will be prepared both mentally and physically unlike some people....but everybody is different

Good luck Big Al

Billy


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Big Al posted 2001-30-07 07:32

Cheers guys,

John nice problem......you gonna have to go invest in some new clothes bro.....XXXXL!


Your right on the money Billy mental prep is key. You got to research all the possibilites the negatives and the positives.

Big Al


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Longhorn posted 2001-30-07 09:36

Very cool post Big A, not exactly what you would expect to read in this forum. Four star **** rating.

I’m within a few days of beginning my first a/s cycle, just waiting on the gear. The final mental preparation really kicked in this weekend. A combination of excitement, nervousness and a little fear all rolled into a knot the size of a grapefruit in my stomach. Without a doubt this is one of life’s big decisions for all of us and as you stated not to be taken lightly.

This is kind of funny. Went to the local pharmacy yesterday to buy pins. Told the pharmacist I was restoring old furniture and needed to inject thin set glue into cracks. He ended up giving me an even dozen of various sizes and told me to come back if I needed more. LOL- I’m going to insist on paying next time.

They say the first time is the best.

Keep us informed of your experiences. Though not nearly as eloquent as you, I’ll post mine.


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Big Al posted 2001-30-07 10:02

Damn right..... the feelin of excitement and dread that feels the body, I don't think I've ever had that feeling before.

I think it must be apart of the build up process, you approach the line on no return.

I remember now walking out the gym the day before my conversion knowing it would never be quite the same again.

Keep us posted and you know I'll do the same

Big Al



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arthurb999 posted 2001-30-07 10:42

Make sure you must mentally prepare to come off the juice as well. Coming off is rough! You'll see all these gains and then when you stop, you lose some of it (mostly water). It is like taking 3 steps forward and one back. Don't get discouraged.



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Max posted 2001-02-08 11:08

Great post! I plan on doing a similar cycle, the only thing is that week #1-3 I am taking 35mg ed (mon-fri), and week #4 25mg ed (mon-fri). Do you think that it would be alright to take my dbol just on the weekdays? I only have 130 @ 5mgs. Another thing is that I planned on taking winstrol 50mg tabs ed for week #5-8. I am 29, 5'10", 205lbs. This is my 3rd cycle. 1st stacking.
summary
wk1-3 (*35mg dbol ed),400mg deca, 500mg sus
wk4 (*25mg dbol ed) " "
wk5-8 50mg winstrol tabs ed,400mg deca,500mg sus
wk9&11 50mg clomid ed
wk10 100mg clomid ed
wk1-8 100mg milk thistle
*denotes (mon-fri)
What do you think?
p.s I'm also tossing around the idea of taking 300mg primo/week with my clomid for wks 9-11. I heard this would help me keep my gains.
Max



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Big Al posted 2001-03-08 03:39

Max,

Looks like you know the score here!

IMO you need to be taking the D-Bol ed, if you've got a 130 5mg tabs then do 30mg per for three weeks, or get some more. IMO you need at least 200.

Going straight from D-Bol to Winny may a little harsh on the Liver, even with the Milk thistle. You need a break inbetween. Again IMO if it was my cycle it would either be D-Bol at the beginning or winny at the end.

The primo is good for bridging and keeping gains, its up to you. Maybe run it after the Clomid.

BA



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theHulk posted 2001-05-08 20:48

Big Al. really good post man. i am gonna start a cycle in a while and its nice to know what to expect. keep us posted, especially near the end and how being off of it is. good luck


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Big Al posted 2001-10-08 05:44

What can I say I like my own work too!

BUMP!

BA



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Big Al posted 2001-13-08 06:52

Ok, Whats the score so far.

I'm now in week four of eight. Remember Deca/Sus/D-Bol finishing witt Clen, Clomid.

The things I've learnt so far.

1.) I have a high tolerance to D-Bol.....in my opinion anyway, I'm on 40mg per day and I love em, I love the feelin' they give me and yes Jason I feel them in my head, I know what you mean now. They're responsible for the best part of 14LBS, however, strangely I'm leaning up at the same time.....I didn't expect that. I'm tapering right now, if I had my time over again I would have run them to the end of week five.....Milk thistle is important as to is water, These two alone can help prevent negative side affects.

2.) Aggression is there but controllable, I feel incrediably violent at times, and roaring is not unheard of. I blame this on the Sus.

3.) Wouldn't neccesary go with Sus again, might like to try a combination of Prop and Cyp, as the prop is a faster acting ester.

4.) I love injections and can't wait for them, I like glutes and Delts but thighs.....no very painful. Deca and Sus is a good combo as Sus would be too painful on its own.

5.) Sleep is becoming a problem.......lay awake alot now, just thinking.

6.) appetite increases considerably......eating clean is keeping the gains quality.

7.) Strengh has increased considerably but the mind muscle connection is far more pronounced I can feel the weight from the very begining of the set. The pumps are painful......like nothing you would have experienced, bar calfs and biceps training natural.

8.) Waiting before I started was the best thing I could of done, a natural base more important that you could ever imagine.

9.) Gonna mis them when they've gone, and gonna miss some of the gains if I lose them.

10.) research and gaining knoweldge from the experts has prevented any surprises so far.

11.) Come on Sus and Deca kick in fella's cos I know I'm gonna grow like a MF!

Knowledge is Key here......

BA